“There have been a couple incidents during our time, but is the case that this idea that we’re going to call it what it is — radical Islamic extremism — we’re going to confront it by taking away their real estate and destroying the caliphate. We’re going to confront it by taking the architect of a good deal of this terrorism, Qassem Soleimani, from the battlefield,” Pompeo said. “These are serious actions by serious leaders who said it’s not enough to appease and allow them to grow. That will one day lead to bad outcomes. By confronting it, we’ve succeeded in avoiding entering any new wars — that’s no small thing for an administration. We’ve begun to move past the counterterrorism model we had post-9/11 and said we can still maintain our position and protect the homeland but with fewer of our young American men and women in harm’s way. It is possible to accomplish each of those objectives, and I think we have demonstrated our ability to do so.”
Pompeo explained that the approach the Trump administration has taken to confronting terrorism is one that understands the “risk” domestically from such actors is “multifaceted.” So, the president and his team — of which he has been a leading player, first as CIA director then as secretary of state — have sought to empower like-minded nations in the region and directly confront and challenge those who would bring harm upon us.
“The risk to the homeland from terrorism is multifaceted and can come from multiple places,” Pompeo said. “What you want to find is friends and partners who are like-minded and have capabilities to help you respond to it and make sure you’re deploying whatever resources you have available to the problem as it stands today. Afghanistan is a piece of that. After 9/11, we had over 100,000 soldiers there at one point. When President Trump came to office, there were multiple thousands of soldiers there. We said, ‘look, we have a terror threat all around the world. How should we best deploy our resources?’ We concluded we could work with the Afghans, talk to the Taliban, and get to the table and have negotiations and lead ourselves to a place that reduces the risk to the homeland, reduces the risk to lives of American soldiers. This is the same model we’ve used in the Middle East more broadly: go find friends and partners. So, the Emiratis, in North Africa, Sudan, the Bahrainis, and others who will partner with us against the central threat there which began as the caliphate. Remember, they were cutting people’s heads off and putting them in cages when we came into office. That’s not happening today. The Iranians displaced over six million people in Syria and President Obama chose to make a threat and then walk away from it signaling to the Syrians and the Iranians that there is no place you can go that will cause us to respond in a serious way. President Trump, when the Syrians used chemical weapons, we struck. People have forgotten about this, toward the first part of our administration, they used chemical weapons and President Trump responded in a serious way. When they used Qassem Soleimani, the president responded in a serious way. We have not been unwilling to use American power, but we’ve used it in a way that actually confronts the real threat as it’s presented, and we’ve done it using diplomatic and economic tools more often than we’ve chosen to resort to military tools.”
As former Vice President Joe Biden – the Democrat candidate for president who currently leads enough states’ certified election results to win the electoral college in Monday’s meeting at which he is expected to become president-elect — prepares to take office, many on the right are concerned that Biden may seek to reenter the failed Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) from the Obama years. Pompeo, asked about the Iran deal, told Breitbart News that its “fundamental flaws” are “legion,” and reentering it or something like it would be a huge mistake.
“The fundamental flaws of the JCPOA are legion,” Pompeo said. “They begin with the fact they are temporary, any restrictions, and we are now five years on — it was 2015, and it’s now 2020 — and most of the restrictions are in the ebb. One of the restrictions, the capacity for the Iranians to buy and sell weapons, has already expired. We did our best at the UN to stop that. But that restriction is gone. It was only temporary, and it didn’t address this problem over the long haul of even their nuclear program, and it presented a clear pathway for Iran to ultimately obtain a nuclear weapon. Second, it was too short and not broad enough. It didn’t address what we have seen, which is their ballistic missile program continues to advance and the JCPOA didn’t address it. We’ve seen the terror campaign, and so the only way we found to address those issues was to deny the regime resources. Now, tens and tens of billions of dollars of resources denied to the Ayatollah, Khamenei, to conduct terror around the world and so that must certainly be better. Reentering that deal would light up the Iranian economy and give them all the money and wealth that they want for themselves. They will steal it, and they will not use it to take care of their people. They’ll use the remainder of that for terror. So, that is a bad pathway, and the countries in that region know it’s a bad pathway. Our Gulf friends and Israeli friends know it’s a bad pathway, and down that pathway lies ruin.”
When asked about the Biden team’s plans to
keep the peace deals that Trump has negotiated between Israel and several Arab countries — like Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Sudan, and now the latest last week Morocco — dubbed the Abraham Accords, Pompeo said that was a “good” thing.
“That’s good because the Israelis, the Bahrainis, the Sudanese, and the Emiratis certainly want to keep them,” Pompeo said.
“There will be [other countries that join],” he added. “We never know the when, but we know the what. We know that these nations will all conclude that recognizing Israel as the appropriate homeland of the Jewish people is the right thing to do for the people of their country. This is a pathway that many of these countries will choose soon, and others of these countries will choose in more time, but they’re all going to head that way. It’s become clear that the economics, the security relationships, all the benefits that come from partnering with Israel to counter the Islamic Republic of Iran is the right thing to do so I’m very confident more nations will follow.”
This is the third and final part of Pompeo’s latest Breitbart News exclusive. The other two
addressed the future of America First and its “lasting legacy,” and how President Trump has exposed the Chinese Communist Party as a serious threat to the world.