The Arizona Senate hearing from Thursday can be watched in full below:
“AZ Senate leadership hired unqualified auditors with a lack of election knowledge & a wealth of political bias,” Maricopa County stated. “The claims these contractors advanced in yesterday’s briefing to senators enabling & enriching them were not based in fact. We refute more claims below.”
“CLAIM: 74,000 more mail-in ballots were counted in Nov. 2020 than were sent. FACTS: @maricopavote calculated the true number of requests and returns:
REQUESTS = 2,364,426
RETURNS = 1,918,024
“So the claim is not just wrong but completely wrong,” Maricopa County said. “We don’t know where Cyber Ninjas came up with that idea or number.”
However, a close check of the transcript shows that this is not the claim. What was claimed is that 74,000 mail-in ballots lacked proper documentation.
“For example, 74,243 mail-in ballots, where there is no clear record of them being sent,” Logan said. “And just to be clear, here in the state of Arizona there is EB32s and EB33s. EB32s is supposed to give a record of when a mail-in ballot is sent. And EB33 is supposed to give a record of when the mail-in ballot is received.”
“So there should be an equal… there should be more EB32s, more sent out then there are received,” he added. “Specifically, with these we can tie them to a specific individual it was mailed to. And so, we have 74,000 where we have, it came back from individuals where we don’t have a clear indication that it was ever sent out to them.”
Maricopa County provided additional details in the tweet thread below.
“CLAIM: More than 11,000 names were added to the voter rolls after Election Day but were recorded as casting a ballot in the Nov. election.”
“FACTS: This is likely referring to people who cast provisional ballots,” Maricopa says. “18,310 provisional ballots were cast in the 2020 General Election. These go through a rigorous verification process to make sure that the provisional ballots cast are only counted if the voter is eligible to vote in the election. This happens after Election Day.”
“Only eligible voters are added to the voter rolls,” the county continued. “Of note: 7,605 provisional ballots were rejected in the General Election due to the individual not being registered to vote. It is possible for a voter to not be on the voter rolls, vote a provisional ballot, receive credit for voting, that ballot not actually be counted because they voted provisionally, and then later show up on the voter rolls. Since the Senate contractors are unqualified and untrained for this work, it’s tough to know exactly what data they’re using to come up with numbers.”
It should be noted that the audit team included former Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett, acting as the Arizona Senate liaison; a digital forensics expert with more than 25 years doing audits for private corporations and governments Ben Cotton, and the CEO Doug Logan, whose company has experience auditing for private corporations and governments.
As for the claim Maricopa County is disputing, it is based on the voter roll file that was delivered to them, according to Logan.
Garrett Archer of ABC News proffered an explanation on Twitter.
“[Maricopa County] on the 11 thousand ‘added to the voter rolls’. This one takes a second to explain so I will thread,” Archer wrote. “Cyber Ninjas were using publicly available voter files in their analysis. These are available to the parties, as well as those that prr them (for a fee)…”
“The publicly available files only include voters that are in an ACTIVE or INACTIVE status, but there are other statuses, example ‘suspense’ which means the voter has yet to provide a qualified ID,” Archer went on. “A voter in suspense that goes to the polls casts a provisional ballot b/c their ID needs to be verified. If they do provide said ID and are verified, not only does their ballot count, but they are moved into ACTIVE status.”
“CLAIM: Maricopa County relaxed signature verification requirements.”
“FACTS: This is simply not true. Maricopa County follows rigorous state signature verification guidelines. Staff receives training prior to elections to ensure compliance. In June 2020 prior to the Primary Election, all full-time staff members that perform signature verification in Maricopa County completed a statewide signature verification certification course offered by the Associated Forensic Laboratory, LLC.”
This reference was actually from a legal affidavit cited by Doug Logan. This is verbatim what was stated at the hearing.
“When mail-in ballots were received, that so many of them were received, that the standards reduced over time,” he said. “They originally talked about, there was initially 20 points of comparison on the signature, then after some time they were told to go to ten points a signature, ten points of comparison, and then five,” he noted. “And then eventually, they were just told to let every single mail-in ballot through.”
“CLAIM: Maricopa County’s Duplication process allowed illegitimate ballots to be counted.”
“FACTS: When ballots are delivered to Maricopa County from military voters, overseas voters, large print ballots, braille ballots, or when they are too damaged to be read by a tabulator… Maricopa County duplicates these ballots to ensure the votes can still be counted,” the rebuttal continued. “The Elections Department assigns a matching serial number to both the original and duplicated ballot. This number can be used to compare the ballots. The accuracy of Maricopa County’s duplication process was confirmed in court (CV2020-015282 Ward v. Jackson) where the plaintiffs randomly sampled 1,626 duplicated ballots.”
Former Arizona Secretary of State and State Senate liaison Ken Bennett discussed the chain-of-custody procedures and the questions involving duplicated ballots. Bennett said that while some duplicate ballots in bright red markings, some were stenciled on in pencil, and some were even missing.